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    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2010 edited
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    REPLACEMENT SHOTS

    What it's all about: Replacing shots that have something wrong with fixed ones.
    What it's not: Turning good looking shots into better looking shots.
    Who can do it: Cinematographers or higher

    Shots that should be replaced:
    - Not from DVD shots (but sometimes it's not easy, since promo shots may actually not be taken from any scene of the movie)
    - Low quality shots (if you can see macroblocking, lots of artefacts, color in a meant-to-be B&W shot...)
    - Distorted shots (stretched/squeezed)
    - Shots with black bars
    - Shots with anything that's not part of it (colored lines around...)
    - Cropped shots (for instance, some users crop 2.35:1 movie shots to make them fill the whole 720x400 WTM frame, they should NOT)

    What shouldn't be replaced:
    - Perfectly OK DVD shots (even if your Blu-ray shot looks better)
    - Shots from official 4:3 DVD releases (even if an OAR shot is always better)

    What *can* be replaced (even they shouldn't be replaced, based on what's above):
    - Shots of YOURS you're not happy with

    The "replaceplease" tag:
    - Use it for shots that SHOULD be replaced.
    - If it's not obvious, add a shout or tag to explain WHY it should be replaced.
    - You can tag "replaceplease" some of YOUR OWN shots. Then you MUST explain why in a shout below the shot.
    - If you want to replace shots, focus on this list first http://whatthemovie.com/search?t=tag&q=replaceplease

    When you have replaced a shot that is NOT your own:
    - Leave a shout below the shot to explain WHY the shot was updated (=what was wrong with the original shot).
    - Remember to remove the "replaceplease" tag, if any.
    - If you are not sure whether a shot should be replaced, contact the original uploader or a mod and show them the replacement shot you have ready, BEFORE replacing the actual shot.

    Replacement shots should be presented with the original theatrical aspect ratio.
    And of course:
    - their quality should be at least as high as the original shot's,
    - you MUST take them from your own discs, just as any other WTM shot.

    If you find a replacement that doesn't match these guidelines (wrong aspect ratio, ...), please contact mods.

    One last thing: You must ALWAYS try to do the EXACT same shot (use the frame by frame feature of your DVD software).
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      CommentAuthorefji
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2010
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    Good summary MrZob, as usual !

    But I don't agree with

    "What shouldn't be replaced:
    - Shots from official 4:3 DVD releases (even if an OAR shot is always better)"

    If a good dvd exists, why keep the shots from a bad one ?
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      CommentAuthorZythux
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2010
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    You can always ask the poster if they agree to replace it, but there is no rule against the 4:3 releases, so also no reason to replace them.
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      CommentAuthorefji
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2010
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    @Zythux
    Rules are rules (I don't like them...) but cinema loving and respect of the authors are different things. If a director chooses a particular aspect ratio, it becomes part of his work. If a merchant takes it to make money without respecting the original aspect ratio, I cannot agree. If another merchant gives me the opportunity to correct my vision of a movie, I am grateful.

    Take this example (it is not a masterpiece, but I didn't find one): http://whatthemovie.com/movie/american_history_x/snapshots
    You can clearly see 2 types of dvd. The good one and the bad one. Which one is more respectful ? And what is the 4:3 version of this shot http://whatthemovie.com/shot/80005 ? :)

    PS: I wanted to give a stunning example and I typed "joconde" in google image. The result is very funny and not respectful at all :)
    Rules are made to be broken !
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    It's not uploader's fault if he got the 4:3 version but it really looks way nicer in better AR, so I'm up for asking permission from the uploader...
    Picture says more than words so just look at this: the version I have:

    and the one I posted thanks to fungus
    http://whatthemovie.com/shot/104934
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    Are you allowed to replace a 4:3 shot you uploaded yourself with a 16:9 shot, though? Specific example: I uploaded http://whatthemovie.com/shot/50034 , but since then I have gotten a widescreen version of the DVD, so it would be easy enough for me to replace it, and since it's my own shot, I wouldn't be pissing anyone off.
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      CommentAuthorZythux
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2010
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    Yes, it's ok to replace then. I think it's also ok to replace other 4:3 shots but not before asking the original uploader if he/she agrees.
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2010
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    Yes, you can update your own shots to identical but better-looking and OAR shots.
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2010
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    There are still a lot of "replaceplease" tags showing up without any explanation.
    Those tags will be removed.
    • CommentAuthoragonistes
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2010 edited
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    This one has the replaceplease tag http://whatthemovie.com/shot/63889
    Here's the shot I just took, do you think the update is worth it? I'm leaning towards "not worth it", as there is almost no difference, aside from some color differences and minor black bars.

    If you think it's worth it I can replace it.
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2010
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    Neh, not worth it.
    • CommentAuthorshalev
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2010
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    Pan & scan is an awful thing, IMO. Many movies I'd rather not watch at all than watch cut up. I think it's much worse then low quality because you never know what you're not seeing.

    Here's Sydney Pollack's take on it:
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2010
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    Yeah, I *hate* pan&scan releases (I even hate unmatted releases). But they are official releases, they are legit.
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2010
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    I just removed a whole bunch of replacementplease tags for Jackie Brown, on shots that were 4:3. Please do NOT tag shots from 4:3 releases if they are otherwise ok.
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
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    And again a bump needed. The replaceplease tag is ONLY for old shots that are already in archive. When a shot has something wrong with it and is in NS, then please just vote delete.
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
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    *shout rocks*
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2011 edited
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    And again a bump needed. The replaceplease tag is ONLY for old shots that are already in archive. When a shot has something wrong with it and is in NS, then please just vote delete. Also, when it's not immediately clear what is wrong with the shot, add a reason to the replaceplease.
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      CommentAuthorPhoenix
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2012
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    Hey there... I have a question :)
    I would like to replace one of my own shots but seems like I don't have that function?
    So how does this work then?
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      CommentAuthorZo0
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2012
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    on the top of the page you can read
    "replacement Who can do it: Cinematographers or higher"
    maybe you are not a cinematographer!
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      CommentAuthorPhoenix
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2012
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    It's nowhere on the top of my page but thank you :)
    You're right, I'm not... was gone a long time ;)
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2012
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    That's correct, the option (+ text) doesn't show up when you don't have that rank.
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      CommentAuthorkinoute
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2013
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    List of movies with the most shots that need to be replaced:

    http://whatthemovie.com/page/replaceplease
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2013
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    And please, check if you have the correct ratio before you start taking shots! And remember that the cover can claim you got one ratio, but the actual movie can be different.
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2014 edited
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    Bump for the list! (But not the ones I will do some day ;))
    • CommentAuthorgreyhound
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    Today, I stumbled over a replaceplease for a shot from a user that hasn't been active for six years now.
    What to do in such a case?
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    Is there something actually wrong with it, or would you need the users permission to replace it (upgrade quality, fix aspect ratio to intended but this one is also from disc, etc)?
    • CommentAuthorgreyhound
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    It says "quality": #52217.
    I could provide a replacement-shot (having the DVD, and my shots from that disk never had any problems).
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    If you can go and replace it, that would be great. If it turns out that there is not so much difference (and therefore that the original shot maybe did come from DVD), we can always revert it.
    • CommentAuthorgreyhound
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    Thanks! That's what I wanted to know beforehand.
    It's the same frame from a RC1-DVD (where the movie is from).
    • CommentAuthorgreyhound
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    Done.
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2016
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    @greyhoud
    Please, ALWAYS leave a shout below the replaced shot stating what was wrong with the original.