@ astrododo : Yeah It could be nice if the almighty Naut could save this one (my shot muhaha:D)

Hey lepaposaure, I have seen the same thing on a few of my recent uploads.

http://whatthemovie.com/shot/26266

For example,. that picture was solved quickly, and had a single high vote. Think it was 8 or 9. I refreshed, and there were now 3 votes, and the score was at like 2 or 3. So those 2 votes must have been 1. I have noticed this on a few uploads.

http://whatthemovie.com/shot/25801

Is another one, the first 3 votes were one! I know rating a picture is subjective, but come on! Thankfully the score is an average, so it should even out after a while. I can only assume the "1s" are people who have pictures in the new submissions section, and are marking everyone else down to help their image go through. Or people dont like me also :)

connectiv, I'm not saying that people voting down for a shot are dummies or big commercial movie's fans.
I just think NO shots deserve a 1/10. Perhabs they deserve a 2 or 3, because the shot is blurry or very dark, unviewable (but not enough for del-votes).

Ok, my shot is not awesome (I think it's one of the best unposted shot of the movie however).
6/10 ? It's perfect for me ! 4/10, if you don't know the title or you want your own uploads go through before mine, that's OK !
7/10 because you love the movie, like the shot or just because you have good mood and the sun is shinning, that's marvelous !
But as themOOch says : "come one !" To vote a 1 after 2 minutes in the new subs, there's something insane in that behaviour !
And I guess it's not innocent to the renunciation to the game by old members as Mimimi, Biglebowski or Dorisnight...

I bless almighty creators behaviours, admitting "bad shots" like http://whatthemovie.com/shot/25728 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/25840 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/26088 , it's saving the game !

I think everyone who keeps track of the votes sometimes notices this. I think both shots them00ch posted are really great shots, no way you vote a 1 for that.

After some really obvious Pulp Fiction shots, I just had to try to make it harder to find Pulp Fiction...

1. (forgot url) the close up of a young boy. Pulp Fiction. Found 95 times.
2. The "I love you honey bunny" gun. Pulp Fiction.

About 10 times.
3. The OD syrniges. Pulp Fiction.

About 25 times.

Congrats to those who found them. :)

congratulations. as I thougt: it is possible to post good shots from PF without one or more guys from the manicast in it.

Checknorisk, I understand your intentions, but do not vote delete stills just because they are obvious. Obvious stills are not breaking the rules and the vote-delete is specifically only to be used on images which are blatantly breaking the rules.

There are enough people already mis-using the vote-deletes, please dont add to the problem. Voting 1 however is your prerogative and this is a better way of dealing with it. I personally also vote low if the picture is JUST a hadshot of the actor from the film, unless its a particularly nice shot for other reasons.

Remember though, whats easy for you may not be easy for someone else who hasnt seen the movie. While I am playing this I often ask my wife if she knows some of the easier stills. She hasnt seen a lot of movies so I usually test her with these "obvious" ones.

She DIDNT know the pulp fiction ones, and also didnt know the Sharon Stone one.

Admittedly she is probably in the minority but its almost arrogant to assume everyone else has the same knowledge of movies as you.

Also, as I have said in other posts, this site is used by a wide variety of people with different movie knowledge, and the site should be a balance of well known films, lesser known films, easier shots and harder shots. Some people (like my wife for example again :) ) would never play this game if it wasnt for the odd easy shot, she would never get ANY points.

Its getting the balance right between easier and harder shots which is the tough thing. I have to agree with you on your main point, I prefer harder shots that require a bit of detective work to resolve, but there is a place for easier shots as well, you have to look at the bigger picture, and you definitely shouldnt be using the vote delete for an image if its too obvious.

I will continue to vote for deletion on verry obvious pics for 2 reasons

-the pics wont be cancelled, cause I'm the only one to vote (and till today it just happens twice)
-too many good pics are eliminated for bad quality or other mysterious reason, they don't reach the FF. (who can expect a shaw brothers movie to get a bluray quality?)

I don't even hope that thoose pics could be cancelled, it's just to make know to others people that I disagree with thoose pics cause it's not funny, even if the shot is "awesome".

for me the perfect still is the one taken from a movie I haven't seen, but I can solve it with the clues it contains.
ex:
http://whatthemovie.com/shot/26581
http://whatthemovie.com/shot/24557

it's easy but it require a small amount of reflexion, I'm not asking for much.

Checknorisk, your idea of what a good shot can be different than others, and this you should accept! This shouldn't be a reason for voting for deletion. This is not why this functionality exists. You can just vote low then but the voting for deletion is simply there to delete bad quality shots. It is true that too many people vote for bad quality when they shouldn't but that shouldn't be a reason for abusing also of the vote just because you want to make a point. There should be shots for everyone: I always like to post all kind of shots: famous and obvious, less famous, hard ones from a famous movie... I dont like also just a famous face but I simply vote them low, I wont vote them for deletion. And you must consider that people play this game for different reasons: puzzle is the main, but me, I also love seeing a beautifull shot which maybe easy if you've seen the movie. It maybe easy to you but not to others... And it is also a good way to discover new movies you haven't seen (the puzzled ones often dont give this). You have to accept that people have different taste and different ideas on what shots they like. Bottomline is: it is really unjustified to vote for deletion for the reason you explain. And as Le Paposaure said, I'm pretty sure the admins will agree with this too... so please dont vote for deletion if the shots don't violate any rules!

I agree with you in some way, to be honnest I also didn't like the sharon stone pic but unfortunately we have to live with it, there will always be shots like this one, the problem is not having these easy shots, the problems is that there should be more hard ones too, that's the main problem, hard shots or easy shots from less known movies have a real difficult time to go through. But there is hope for changes. Hopefully the new token system the admins will be implementing will improve things.

I like an easy still when it puts a smile on my face, like the one from them00ch and the controversial Batman shot.

Exactly ;)

@them00ch: about http://whatthemovie.com/shot/26507 you see I'm not as tough as I seem to be, I gave a 5 ;-)

http://whatthemovie.com/shot/26612#

"guess the title of this depicted movie"

is it anything to guess there?

i think it's finally breaking a rule, the tagline of the site is :"guess the movie by the snapshot" and this still does not leave anything to guess ;-)




them00ch said :"Remember there is a fine line between easy and obvious. I showed my friend from work my picture this morning ->link<- and he thought it was Airplane! :) "

I told you, this pic is not so obvious I gave it a 5.

kind of :) No battling girl scouts in the back though :)

Yeah that one was discussed up there^^^^

Its your call Naut. There is nothing in the rules to say you cannot upload a REALLY obvious still, so I personally think its unfair to delete on that basis. However, I kind of agree with peoples cmoplaints that this image is just TOO easy.

But I think the ratings should decide, because where is the line? What makes something TOO easy? I would say the couple of Pulp Fiction shots that are just headshots of Sam Jackson and Travolta are just as easy as this one, but they went through OK. I am just worried if we allow this one to be deleted because its TOO easy, we are opening the floodgates. "too easy" will be the next "black bars" or "bad quality" vote delete.

Everyone should start learning to vote these stills low in future. Not because its easy, but because its easy AND it is quite a poor uninteresting shot IMO.

Easy + boring to look at = bad shot, but shouldnt be deleted just cos its easy.


Thas my opinion anyway for what its worth :)

Should be reloaded.
This shot, as easy as it is, has its place in the site (and the firing finger is pretty cool, indeed).

Deletion-votes against it because it's "too easy" sound like snob behaviours from people who think the site should only be for cinema-addicted.

Think about young players, or just casual viewers.

I totally agree with Them00ch, pspan, LePaposaure and Deviant. It shouldn't be deleted!

Quote Them00ch: "Everyone should start learning to vote these stills low in future. Not because its easy, but because its easy AND it is quite a poor uninteresting shot IMO.
Easy + boring to look at = bad shot, but shouldnt be deleted just cos its easy."

That should go for hard shots too... hard + boring to look at = bad shot too imo
And I'm not mentioning names, but some people should have that vote-delete button removed ;)

Seconding what Deviant says, although it has been expained about 10 times already now, feel like banging my head against a wall :)

Checknorisk you say "I don't expect them to be removed from the site." so why vote delete? What do you think this button is for if it isnt to "remove from the site". If you wish to make some sort of protest, do it in a shout, on the profile, in the forums like everyone else does. Only use the vote delete for images which are breaking the rules of uploading in some way.

And saying "I am only 1 vote" doesnt cut it, as this 1 vote then encourages others to vote delete. People are more likely to do something if they feel someone else is backing them up, so to speak.

The uploading rules are as follows:

1. Take the snapshot yourself!
Don‘t rip it from elsewhere
How to take a snapshot?
2. Use the original DVD to take the snapshot; We won't accept low quality!
3. You are not able to post more than 2 snapshots of the same movie and have more than 3 snapshots simultaneously in the category New Submissions. Read more about this subject here
4. Don‘t post the same or a similar shot, which has already been posted at wtm
5. No snapshots from trailers, tv broadcasts or movies which are not yet availiable on DVD; No Porn; No racist material; No unsuitable content


you seem to have invented another rule which says "if we refer to WTM as a game, this picture is not for playing, so it violate the rules somewhere."

If the rules get changed to say "no easy screrenshots" then vote deletes are the way to handle it. If they stay as they are, a forum post, shout etc.. is the way to express yourself. To quote deviant - 'nuff said ;)

Them00ch said "feel like banging my head against a wall"

Same here.....

Really, just vote it low if you dont like a shot and find it too easy.... Deleting this shot would be the door open to all deletion votes for what some consider too easy...

checknorisk, we all understand your intentions but you seem to be ignoring what we are saying.

The vote delete is only to be used for when an image breaks the rules. These images were not breaking any rules, other than rules you have made up. That should be the end of it.

Yes, people have had to use a vote delete on their own pictures, but this is a desperate measure used to defend themselves from a ridiculous vote in the first place, to try and stop further votes.

you are right, you are not the new public enemy, this is only a debate, no-one has any problem with you personally. However you may find yourself the new public enemy if you continue to vote delete in this manner :)

Please do not vote delete on any more pictures unless you want the image to be removed for violating the rules.

Im not going to say any more on this now because we seem to be going round in circles and its making me dizzy :)


EDIT: you added another line at the end of your post while I was typing that :)

Edit : nuff said...

I edited my long novel about life, death and wood-boys with long noses, just after having seen the Big Chief's message :)

6.44 was not a so bad note. It could be gone in FF in another moment. What a pity... Repost another shot, it's a great movie !