Hey everyone,

You voted for it: The new vault's theme will be Pictures in Pictures: this means, shots of photographs!

Everything is allowed (but normal rules for movies count, so no direct to TV, shorts, etc. etc.), as long as there is a photograph in the shot. This can be a framed photograph, a picture in a newspaper or whatever you can think of, just as long as it is clear that it is a picture (so if the entire shot is of the picture, there has to be at least something like a hand holding it, or a frame around it or whatever).

- Best solvers and uploaders get au's and memorabilia.
- Uploading starts next saturday (29) at 20.00 CET and lasts for a week, when solving starts which also will last for a week.
- No giving out hints
- 2 shots per uploader, 3 for supporters
- 1 shot per film in the whole vault!

Have fun and good luck!

You're right bazzy3000.
For example is this shot valid since there is a small picture in a frame in the background ?

Agree the picture should be the main thing in the shot. But for example I have a shot where the picture is in the background but is important for the shot, it basically makes the shot funny and was added by the director for this purpose. That can be allowed of course as soon as it is not just there for nothing. Having only pictures with a hand holding it for 200 shots would also be very boring, a bit of inspiration should also be allowed IMO

well i for one think rules should be clear ahead.. a boring shot of a hand and a photo will never win from a good regular shot with a photo in the background.. and to me it sounds interesting.. pictures in pictures.. will be very difficult! let's see how good some of us really are!

yeah icemotion! i've got shots like that! the contest is photos in movies! so the photo has to be an important part of the shot.. it doesn't have to be a full screen shot.. but a picture on a wall while there is killing (or fucking) going on in the forground shouldn't be allowed.. but this will be a hard contest! great if you ask me!

it is all up to the mods.. or perhaps asmodai as he is the contest mod as far as i know.. users won't know the difference i am afraid.. i always tried to judge contest shots according to the theme.. many times i thought that the voters just treat it as wtm.. vote the for the shot... forget the contest topic.. that is not why we have contests....

let's see what asmodai will make of it.. good luch on this one asmo!

What if someone is holding a photo and we only see the back of it?

What about a poster (of a movie for example)? It's not a photograph but it's close to newspapers :\
And of course you can see it's a poster...

Wouldn't be "photographs" a better title then? I know it's not as catchy as "pictures in pictures" but I do think it's more accurate that way.

If i take a look in the current New Submissions i start to think there should be a rule disallowing to upload snaps in NS the match the contest theme, at least while uploading for the contest is allowed. Out now there are at least 6 snaps in the NS that would fit the theme of the current contest:
http://whatthemovie.com/shot/137780 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/137705 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/137837 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/137943 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/138036 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/138069
Each of this snap could be either a dupe, if someone else has already uploaded the same shot in the contest, or it could take away a potentially intesting snap someone else wanted to post in the contest. Or to make it short: I think is kind of unfair to upload this snaps in the NS while uploading for the contest is still going on.

There is no officlal rule, just common sense which some people seem to lack. But as LM said, if they turn out to be dupes, they will be deleted: no excuses.

EDIT: Of course some snaps may be from people who already took the slot of that particular movie in the vault, in that case it is fine but they could also have waited a few more days ;)

we will see how it goes with the next contest. This one was also obviously VERY broad, it wasn't difficult to find a picture to upload ;) We have to see with a contest a bit more specific

If we limit the snaps to 1 shot per person we could actually revisit a contest theme at a later date . . . and if you only had 1 shot to enter you are likely to be more picky about the shot . . .

well I'm skipping this contest..It's not my cup of tea..boring and too many shots..

I'm gutted that the vault scores have frozen again. I can't be bothered to improve my solves for the contest when there is no way of telling where I am compared to everyone else. It's annoying that this happens and it's happened before, can't there be a solution?

ever since this topic was on top of the poll i wondered why people would vote for it.
i voted 'split-screens' and think it would have been way more interesting.
but i really don't want to complain. it wasn't as much fun as previous ones but i played the contest anyway.
i see the vault as a kind of extra service from the staff for those people who can't get enough WTM by playing the normal quiz.
of course the staff can't find a superb topic every single time. so they ask the community what they would like.
and the voter chose: pictures in pictures.
it's the nature of elections, the outcome may suck supremely for those voters who "lost" but at least it's a democratic decision.

going back to OhLookBirdies' initial notion: i also think the number of snaps should be limited.
400 shots is way too many and counters the "for casual players" argument.

i also think that future polls shouldn't have as many candidates. something around 5-7 maybe.
that way you avoid the "spread" that efji mentioned and the votes get accumulated more, which would make for a result that is even more representative.