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    • CommentAuthoreshyre
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    Today i was cutting some black bars from some shots i have made this couple of days and since i work with photography i have a lot of plug ins/actions etc... I made some extreme changes in some that worked perfectly but then i though that it wouldn´t be fair for ppl that don´t do it.

    what about some "auto color/level/contrast? Who use it and do "WTM people" support it?
    • CommentAuthorLordMyst
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    Personnely I dont think you can change the autocolor/contrast/etc

    because then its not the original shot anymore from the movie
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    I'm 100% with LordMyst here.
    Just cut the black bars away. Those bars are video artefacts. They don't belong to the movie.
    Any other alteration is altering the movie itself. It shoud be forbidden.
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      CommentAuthorefji
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    I am not so affirmative about that. I own many dvd of old movies showing very poor quality. B/W is sometimes very flat and it is not always a director's choice. For color movies of the 50's-70's (and even younger), the color balance is most of the time shifted with a strong dominance. A (light) post treatment can often enhance the shot without altering the movie itself. Some examples of my shots that I post-treated :
    http://whatthemovie.com/shot/72514 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/54527 (color balance: the white was not white)
    http://whatthemovie.com/shot/71452 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/60593 http://whatthemovie.com/shot/60359 (gamma/contrast)
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      CommentAuthorpspan
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010 edited
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    I actually enhanced the gamma on http://whatthemovie.com/shot/78024, because it was way too dark otherwise. That's the only time, and I must admit I hesitated big time.
    • CommentAuthorMisterZob
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    Of course you can find exceptions where a LIGHT treatment is a good thing. But using the AUTO color/level/contrast of Photoshop is nothing but a really bad idea.
    • CommentAuthorTerry5
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    I often buy a movie because the picture looks interesting.

    But if it's manipulated and then the DVD looks quite different, maybe someone will be disappointed ?
    • CommentAuthorrevani
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    i agree with Myst, we shouldn't manipulate foto's.
    about half the time i solve shots i remembered the lighting and color tint..
    i'm ok with a slight contrast change, but only if it's minor :)
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      CommentAuthorZythux
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    I haven't edited any shot (except for black bars of course). I don't think that's right to do.
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      CommentAuthorefji
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    The problem is that you find so many bad quality dvd. Even the theater copies are (actually were since the problem disappeared with the numeric) often not well balanced and many directors complain about that. Anyway, when you get a "film noir" that looks gray, you know that it is not the director's choice.
    • CommentAuthorninka
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010 edited
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    No photoshop!!!! Let's stick to the original movie, however bad the quality is!

    I saw once an overview of all accepted snapshots of a movie, and there was one who whas clearly photoshopped... Can't remember which movie, though :(
    • CommentAuthoreshyre
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    auto color/level/contrast always works even in HD blue ray movies. The only think it wont change is the color ( if the movie is original in its full glory ).
    But mainly, messing in photoshop, the result would/will be in our taste, and that doens´t always work. Personally I wont use it; only sizes and black bars.

    i did it here but only color enhance :

    Was just wondering if people do it =)
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    Depends...

    When I played my blur-rays or dvds in different players, the colours changing, the gamma isn't the same, etc...

    If you adjust to make a pattern of all the shots from the same movie, yeah, why not?

    But if you really change the essence, the director's idea... You are shitting, my friend. :}
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    I don't use any sort of filters or enhancements, not out of any ethical or aesthetic standpoint, but simply because I'm too fucking lazy to put in the effort. :p
    • CommentAuthoreshyre
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2010
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    lol Birdies. xD

    Exactly fred...for example, a shot in the dark, that is suppose to be "fuzzy", photoshop will automatically remove the essence.
    • CommentAuthorstuken
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2010
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    #78024 is quite conspicuous, recognized it while solving... just thought damn thats quite bright Oo

    well, i am also for non-editing of the shots...
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    Seriously: what are you talking about?
    Of course I photoshop all the snaps I post. Like everybody else (?).

    Suddenly you make me doubt.

    I don't take shots from the movies because it is strictly forbidden to rip author's work in France.
    I create my shots from A to Z: that is the purpose of the game, right?
    It is a PhotoShop Movie Theme Quizz, isn't it???

    Please answer me because I work a lot on my shots.

    Thank you in advance.

    Yours,

    Palahniuk.
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      CommentAuthorefji
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2010
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    Palahniuk007, maybe a meeting IRL with piratedelachatte could help you solve your problems ?
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    In my Opinion nobody should "advance" his shots. Cause this site is about the original movies and therefore about the original shots.
    I often thaught this shot would be better if this person would be on the place seconds before with the background at the moment with the lightning few seconds later.
    Hell yeah, i would be a very good director ^^
    But with every change you do to the snaps you degrade it.
    If the DVD-Quality is bad, then buy another or the Bluray or you have to admit it and post it either way cause everbody else will have the same DVD and that´s what´s all about.

    You cannot go to the Louvre and say: "Oh, there´s no mustache on Mona Lisa´s face. But with one it would look much better..."

    For example these both shot:
    (I posted them not long ago in the Replacement Thread, cause they are "photoshopped" with auto-gamma)

    http://whatthemovie.com/shot/52802
    http://whatthemovie.com/shot/6425

    it wasn´t the intention of the director (i haven´t asked mr. tarantino but i think so, anyway)
    that it is that bright in the storage building so you should leave it the dark it is.
    You can recognize it though changing!

    So hands away from any Photoshop-Action besides Black Bars! (if not intended)
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    Okay.
    But how do I do with all my DVDRipped movies?
    They are so crappy that I HAVE to do something about it.
    • CommentAuthorAsmodai
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2010
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    "You cannot go to the Louvre and say: "Oh, there´s no mustache on Mona Lisa´s face. But with one it would look much better..." <-- Of course you can.

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